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Nerf Burger
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Posted - 2012.08.07 03:07:00 -
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learn to adapt, scrub. EVE pvp was FAR too easy for pirates as it was. With this change, gamers who pvp might not think EVE is such a skilles POS as they currently do when it comes to pvp. |

Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.07 04:34:00 -
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Virgil Travis wrote: I think turf burglar sees "skilles" as those exhibited by teenagers on a caffiene rush. There's a reason they call it twitch based gaming.
this is exactly what awful players tell themselves when ppl talk about skill-based games. EVE piracy has too long been a haven for the awful pvper, requiring no skill or talent, just paper/rock/scissors bullshit that is not even remotely challenging in any way. The skill ceiling got raised a few inches off the floor and all the terribad babies come to the forums to flood it with a river of delicious tears. Fking classic. |

Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.07 06:18:00 -
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Mors Sanctitatis wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:6 pages of poor me. Man up or GTFO! Where else are you going to find a game even close to this? Month tops and he will be back for his fix. Aaannnd.... NPC corp. WTF is wrong with you people (NPC Corp players)?
seems like all your arguments are pretty dumb. Cry more scrub. |

Nerf Burger
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Posted - 2012.08.07 15:29:00 -
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Pilna Vcelka wrote:Alpheias wrote:So much delicious anger! I just can't wait for you to be super-butthurt over a change to carebearing, something that you have never seen before whilst carebearing, something like a real challenge.
Your tears will be absolutely divine, like a fine, fine wine running down your cheeks into the river of LOL. That has happened before and there were no tears. Because EVE PvP is not worth any tears, because its just plain dumb. Fights are decided before they even start and for a newbie with no veteran back-up, the outcome is always the same. I never risk anything I would regret losing and the few times I got caught, I just stood there waitign for my ship to explode and my pod pop, ignoring the incoming convos telling me how terribad I am and the values of ransoms I should pay and following hatemails telling me how I suck for carebearing and you know what? It seems it made them PvP sl*ts even more angry and depressed because I didnt really give a **** about their F1 pewpew. Thats where I win EVE, a newbie in an npc corp who will be gradually more and more catered to. Thats where all of you bitter vets lose, spilling tears of nostalgy and praying for a "hardcore uber evil video game" which wiill never work if made for profit. Boo-hoo! well said.
I love how the most of the carebears are smarter than the so called "pvpers" in this game. Real pvpers play other games. |

Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.07 15:59:00 -
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seems like all Richards arguments revolve around taking things to extremes. How typical of someone crying over this change. |

Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.07 16:09:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Denidil wrote:i'm not the one whining about targets that can't shoot back being made harder to suicide. I'm not the one whining about CONCORD exploits being fixed. I'm not the one whining about highsec being too safe.
Nor am I the one whining about lowsec/nullsec being not safe enough, or that other people's way of playing the game may conflict with mine.
You are just as bad, if not worse, than the complete carebears. The carebears just want to be left alone, you on the other hand cannot stand the idea that if you suicide someone in highsec it is going to be costly - which has been part of the ******* game design from day one.
That doesn't stop freighters carrying lots of shiny loot from getting suicided, nor should it. i'm sorry if i disagree with "hisec should be EVE in easy mode"
If you want to play a game that takes skill and has no npc protection, go play Darkfall and quit crying. EVE is as succesful as it is because of equalizer mechanics that allows bads to compete with the best, and has relative safety areas. Its the game you play, deal with it and,suck up your tears or GTFO. |

Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.07 16:13:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Anslo wrote:No. I suggest you leave. You and your kind are what make this game have such a low population of players; because you pew at anything that moves, even in a tiny newb ship. For this game to thrive, PvP changes like what's happening should occur. Deal with it. 350k subscribers is not a "low population" in any way, shape or form, hope this helps >implying 350k subscribers is indicative of a healthy and thriving online population where most activity online is around 40k now >implying 10k of those 40k aren't just nulsec alts.
Anslo curb stomping whiney derps with logic left and right. +1 |

Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:10:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Anslo wrote: >comparing vehicles priced at $20,000-$230,000 and games with monthly fees of $15.
And you say my logic is broken.
Idiot.
no, hes right, it is a stupid comparison.
EVE is actually the game bad mmo players eventually arrive at once they have have gotten **** on in other more skill demanding games. EVEs only real niche, if you can even call it that, is spaceships. If you like spaceships, then eve is a good mmo to play. |

Nerf Burger
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:19:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:Lexmana wrote:Anslo wrote: >comparing vehicles priced at $20,000-$230,000 and games with monthly fees of $15.
And you say my logic is broken.
Idiot. no, hes right, it is a stupid comparison. EVE is actually the game bad mmo players eventually arrive at once they have have gotten **** on in other more skill demanding games. EVEs only real niche, if you can even call it that, is spaceships. If you like spaceships, then eve is a good mmo to play. are you unironically trying to say that EVE, a game which is notorious for its steep learning curve, is not skill demanding compared to other games
it depends on how you define skill, you define skill as general competency. I define skill as quick reflexes, accuracy, use of terrain, motion prediction, map awareness, game sense and actions per minute, all of which are totally irreleveant in EVE gameplay.
If so many eve pirates weren't so awful at skill-based games, you would all be playing darkfall, except those who limit themselves to space games only. |

Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:46:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:it depends on how you define skill, you define skill as general competency. I define skill as quick reflexes, accuracy, use of terrain, motion prediction, map awareness, game sense and actions per minute, all of which are totally irreleveant in EVE gameplay. Oh man you're so wrong here that I don't know where to start
its relatively speaking of course. Other games are just require a lot more to the point you could comparatively say that EVE requires no skill. I guess you could argue that eve employs the use of your spreadsheet skills but that isn't something most competitive gamers care to be proud of. Game know-how is not a skill, its something anyone with a normally functioning brain can achieve.
The steep learning curve comes from the amount of knowledge that is required for a player to not make mistakes. Since this knowledge takes time to accumulate, d-bags are able to prey on those who aren't aware of things like margin trading scams. The d-bags beat their chest and claim superiority and that their victims are stupid, when really, the victim just did not know. There was no lack of skill or superior skill for an outcome. This is the carebear game you play, deal with it and stop crying. |

Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.07 18:04:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:it depends on how you define skill, you define skill as general competency. I define skill as quick reflexes, accuracy, use of terrain, motion prediction, map awareness, game sense and actions per minute, all of which are totally irreleveant in EVE gameplay. Oh man you're so wrong here that I don't know where to start its relatively speaking of course. Other games are just require a lot more to the point you could comparatively say that EVE requires no skill. I guess you could argue that eve employs the use of your spreadsheet skills but that isn't something most competitive gamers care to be proud of. Game know-how is not a skill, its something anyone with a normally functioning brain can achieve. yeah you should tell me more about how your vast experience with so many aspects of this game has led you to the conclusion that "eve requires no skill"
you should read my edit. btw, I've been dabbling in EVE for 2+ years now. I like a challenge and am working towards my own solo wormhole ops. I never thought i'd play an mmo without some decent pvp but here I am.
well, i have played competitive games for many years and I know what skill in a game is vs knowledge. My favorite games are UO, Darkfall, Dark Reign, AoE3, SC2, Frozen Synapse and the only non-competitive games I like are the old RPGs made by black Isle, baldurs gate, fallout, planescape: torment. I like eve for its depth and complexity and the stuff that makes you think, the same thing that draws me to black isles games, but i'm not that intersted in the pvp because I know its more about paper rock scissors than skill. I quit WoW because I was tired of losing 2+v1 to inferior players. This is the same reason I have little interest in EVE pvp. |

Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.07 18:39:00 -
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I usually just ignore tippia's posts. Its like arguing with a radio.
someone who dedicates that much of their life to video game forum posting can't be too in touch with reality or have very rational thoughts. |

Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.07 18:46:00 -
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Roime wrote: You ae basing all your crying on the argument that PVP is not what people want.
no, he isn't. Try to think rationally instead of jumping to extreme conclusions. So many stupid arguments like this coming from the crybabies. |
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